Thursday, November 06, 2008

amazing

look at this. even faux news is calling sarah palin out:

22 comments:

patty said...

I can't believe you watch Faux News now. We saw that interview on the Bill O'Riley show last night and many more scandelous details were given.

mitt said...

Romney 2012!

melinda said...
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melinda said...

Oh what to do...feel sorry for her as she takes the role of whipping boy for the party, or despise her for accepting the invitation when she didn't understand that Africa is a continent. (I do have a hard time believing that one, it just feels too much like a National Enquirer story).

The Frandsen's said...

wow, you'd think it was a slow news day watching that video.....zzzzzz...ahem! Speaking of beating a dead horse...

I am curious as to what you think of this story. In my opinion, protesters outside our temples was going to happen either now or in the future regarding this issue. (As if 52% of CA is mormon, what a bunch of babies)

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27582369/

Trudy

Kyle and Brittany Peterson said...

I hope that we will never see her again. Go back to Alaska, attempt to break from the Union or whatever you do in politics up there, maybe study a map and never come to the big stage again.

Rodney said...

trudy,

I saw your this posted on your facebook page. I resisted the urge to respond to it there.

i realize the 52% of california is not mormon. however, i also realize that 77% of protectmarriage.com's money came from mormons. if we step into a political issue, then we should be prepared to deal with protests and other consequences. i can't help but feel that the money mormons put up, along with pre-election day sermons by other churches, are what tipped the balance for prop 8. one stat of note: 70% of black voters voted for prop 8. it's a cruel irony that barack's presidency excited the base of black voters, and that is what made helped tip the scales for prop 8.

Stephen Hussein Frandsen said...

oops. trudy that was me, not rodney.

The Frandsen's said...

oh ok, I was really confused there for a second. I post things on Facebook because my friends from High school in CA and I have been talking about this for a couple weeks. My brother and I are the only mormons most of them know personally, so I feel it part of my duty to defend the church and explain why we do the things we do to them, not just this, but lots of things. Feel free to write there anytime!

Dad (TMF) said...

I thought Alaska came 'Out of Africa.'

paul said...

el steevo: the number is closer to 30% of the money from mormons...i'm pretty sure. i don't have a definite source though and could be wrong. i just know that the local radio stations have backed off that number. they are certainly pounding the black issue though. the irony is not lost that the most discriminated against minority does not feel that the gay issue is akin to the black civil rights issue...

jimbo said...

there is something to be said for the strong support of minority voters for prop 8, this is true.
however, i don't know that mormon donation money 'tipped the balance,' as prop 8 opposition raised 2 million more dollars than prop 8 supporters, according to the LA times.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-moneymap,0,2198220.htmlstory

so is mormon currency more valuable than that of other donors? me no think so. i don't think this money issue that everybody is so angry about right now can really be used as an argument. if money was such a huge factor, wouldn't the side with the greatest donations win the battle?

the minority issue is definitely a factor. the influence of churches over their congregations is also a factor. but then, aren't we all affected by the views of our various 'churches,' be they religious or not? by the inclinations of all the schools of thought we subscribe to? just because one person hears opinions of a church leader, and another hears that of a friend, a newscaster, or a role model, is the first not entitled to still cast his own vote?

i think that what really occurred here is a simple case of the popular vote at work. there always has been and always will be a minority group, a charismatic leader, or a wealthy supporter behind every democratic election, and that factor will be used by the losing vote to disparage the winning one. i do not mean this to be derogatory to those who opposed this ballot and have found someone to blame- i am saying that it happens in every election. point is, unless this is a case of voter fraud, than i think the outcome can speak for itself.


by the by, i do realize that at some point those in the minority on this issue will become those in the majority- and then, stephen, everything you have said you hope to see as a result of that vote will come true, all that and more. but as for this year, it seems, that time has not yet come.

petey hussein said...

its too bad this comment section was threadjacked.

let's go back to the topic at hand and enumerate all the reasons why we are glad SP isn't our new VP...

Elise said...

Ah, right. Since you're so sure Joey will do a much better job.

petey hussein said...

i am sure "joey" or anybody else would do a much better job than sarah "pallin around with dinosaurs..."

Stephen Hussein Frandsen said...

um....elise. are you serious?

Elise said...

Serious about calling him Joey?

I'm sure you know I don't quite take to the whole liberal/democratic/progressive agenda, so why should it surprise you if I don't like Biden?

Stephen Hussein Frandsen said...

i don't have a problem that you don't like biden; i have a problem that you are comparing him to palin.

Elise said...

Well, then, let's fix your problem. I don't like either of them. Happy?

Stephen Hussein Frandsen said...

yes very.

Carolina said...

Equally amazing: NYT article

Susan said...

I hate to change the subject BUT your mom called me a Demo-crap at a R.S. social no less! The table looked at me all shocked and I just said, "Yes and I'll be one until the day I die"! I hope you don't mind that I egged the family home, shhhhhh lets just keep it on the down low!